The April episode of the ESMATCast podcast brings an interview with Solange Mata Machado, postdoctoral in Neuroscience Applied to Innovation Processes and doctor and master in Innovation and Competitiveness, by FGC/SP. Solange is responsible for teaching the course on "Innovation and Design Thinking", promoted by the Innovation Management Committee and the Innovation and Sustainable Development Goals Laboratory of the Judiciary of the State of Tocantins (CGI/INTELECTUS-TO) in partnership with the Superior School of the Judges of the State of Tocantins (ESMAT).